This is going to be a LOT of fun. Say hi to Kate Kennedy – Kate is a standup comedian, writer, and former adult film actress based in LA. She is one of the top ranked models on OnlyFans and the host of the upcoming podcast The Kennedy Assassination, out July 31st wherever you listen to podcasts!

“I was using it to sell my standup, and other performers were like, what the fuck? You can just do that!? And I was like, dude, that’s how you make the money.. I mean, you’re building a cult of personality; people want to get close to you. If they just want to see titties, like, those are for free on the internet.”

– Kate Kennedy

Transcript:

And we’re live on July 28, 2020! Hey guys, Peter Shankman 20 minutes in lockdown. We’re waiting on our guest, Kate Kennedy, who hopefully will be here any second. She just texted. She’s like, Oh my God. So sorry. The dog had to go out. It was an emergency. So she should be here any second. Hopefully. Um, I am just about halfway through a three day water fast, which essentially is three days of fasting with nothing but water.
So I’m still surprisingly in a good mood. Um, It’s questionable as to how long that will last though. So hopefully Kate will be here in the next 30 seconds or so, and we can kick it off. But Kate is an interesting woman- she a interesting human being. She is one of the top 1% of a website called OnlyFans, where if you know what that is, you know what that is.
Uh, she’s a comedian, she’s a former adult, entertainment actress, adult star and she has some interesting stuff to talk about. So we’re going to, we’re going to have some fun talking. I want to find out if COVID has gotten more people to go into the Adult Entertainment world because only fans is seeing unbelievable revenue more than ever before.
So hopefully, uh, in the next few seconds she will be here. I am checking to see no more emails from her. So I’m assuming she’s on her way. Um, uh, Hey, there she is. Okay. She is. Not a problem at all. We got 19 people who are like, where the hell is.

I’m sorry. I was taking the dog out really quickly. Not a problem.
Good to see you, Kate. Thanks. Thanks for having me. Good to see you as well. Sorry. My hair is atrocious this morning. Gotcha. I had to take the dog out, dude get professional. Yeah, I know I did a show until like two o’clock in the morning, so I’m like just, uh, yeah, well that actually.

So when you say the show you’re on only fans, right?
This was actually a comedy show. Oh ok, cool! I’m on a regular show at the comedy store here at LA. So I was doing a Zoom show last night. Yeah. So, so basically the all comic shows of now all of, uh, comedians have moved to zoom, kind of, um, a lot of the shows are streaming out of the comedy store right now. They’re streaming them like from the O R. and you can sit in the parking lot and watch them on the TV. Yeah. It’s like the lamest possible version of it. Um, but people show up to support it, which is cool.

I mean, are they actually respecting social distancing this year in New York last night in the Hamptons the CEO of Goldman Sachs, frickin moron, uh, held, held the cotton, call it a drive through concert with you yeah.. with the chance. Fuck it. Everyone got out of their cars and there was no social this thing. And this shit is why my, my daughter can’t hug her grandmother. It’s this stupid shit.

Imagine, imagine risking like a pandemic to see the Chainsmokers! The Chainsmokers of all people! As someone that stole multiple mattresses back in Boulder. I do not approve of it!

I love it. Well, at least three managers is in Boulder, so you’re still doing so you’re still going to stand up. How long have you been doing stand up now?

I’ve been doing stand up for a little over a year. I started a year ago at the comedy store in like May I think. Yeah.

So are you seeing, um, what changes have you seen in the past? Obviously.. so in the past year, since you’ve started, there’s been everything from #metoo to #BLM, to #COVID Right. So anything anymore, that’s the thing. What changes have you seen in terms of comedy? Because a lot of people, you know, I’ve heard a lot of people say, and it sounds like because also on the flip side of it. Yeah. I have, um, uh, uh, uh, British office, um, British version of the office, uh, who said you can joke about anything and people can either choose to find funny or not.

I’m on that side. Like my comedy all comes from my own experiences. I think that’s the most authentic kind of comedy. And I think that’s like the only stuff I can really talk about with authority. Um, but like I get an, like every comic has a joke about porn, um, which I find super annoying cause most of them are not accurate. Um, but at least I think in comedy, like, I mean, comedy is still such a male dominated field. Um, it just is, and like that’s not most guys in comedy are cool, but I do think it’s definitely like gotten their attention and be like, Oh, Hey, I wonder how it would feel to be the only woman or the only person of color on a show out of 30 people that might be appearing there that night. Like there’s, if there’s 30 people appearing, maybe two of them are women. Yeah. You know, maybe a couple of them are, you know, black or Brown or indigenous. Like there’s not a lot of diversity. And I think that they’re at least paying attention. Cause it’s, you know, again, it’s not like their fault,

But I think someone, some could argue that that could give you an extra, um, you know, you’re different.

Yeah, you get remembered. I mean, I definitely, I know that I’ve definitely gotten the opportunities, especially in comedy based on like what my job was and the way I looked and how many social media followers I had. Um, but I think like at the end of the day, it’s the work that stands up for itself. It’s the, you know, you know, you definitely don’t want to get on a show just because you’re a girl. Like you don’t want to be the token.

So talk about, I want to touch on, cause I have a lot of friends in your other industry. I’ve got a friend in Adult and, and they have. They’re about as bored as I am right now. You know, they used to things to do. I mean, I used to travel a quarter million miles a year and I’ve been, basically went to zero. Right? I I’ve been sitting at home at my kitchen. It’s. I mean, we’re, if I’m not 700 pounds, my fridge is like there. Um, you know, and it’s, it’s been brutal. And, and so you shifted really fast though. You, you, you like pivoted on a dime and, and, and jumped on only fans and, and your, your sort of rule in that platform now.


Yeah. Um, I mean, I’ve been on OnlyFans for three years. Um, so it did take a while to like, get it. I’ve been on it since almost started. Um, but it just took off at the beginning of the pandemic. I mean, I felt so lucky to have that. Cause a lot of my friends that are in entertainment, but may not adult, even my friends in Adult were just like that relied on studio shoots, which normally I do too, like it was a mix going into this. I was doing studio shoots. I was featured dancing. So I was touring. Um, and then I was doing only fans and like the way it was going was like only fans was paying my rent. Which was great because then everything else I was doing was just extra and I was investing and I was, you know, like I was, this was going to be my fucking year, man.
This is my fucking year.

You have a lot of people’s year. No doubt, no doubt.

All of my friends. It’s so funny. It feels like for every I’m 26. And like, so all of my friends that live in LA are all, you know, trying to be screenwriters. They’re trying to be actors and they’re trying to be comics. They’re trying to be porn stars like this was our fucking year man. Like things were coming up for all of us and like, I have so many friends that like, have their shot, like their special shelved right now. Um, or they’re just there, they can’t tour. And so like, yeah, I felt so lucky, especially going into it that like, okay, I have this like legit form of income that can ramp up and pay all my bills um, but it’s definitely been stressful. Like I work more. Than I’ve ever worked on an hourly basis. I probably work 12 to 15 hours a day. Typically I’m just on and off different platforms, promo talking to people, whatever. So it’s, it’s a different.. there’s pros and cons. Like I think everyone kept for, especially for awhile and I was like on like the front page of like the fucking daily mail being like the face of globally, uh, profiting off the global pandemic.

Yeah, I know. I saw the article. It was a great article.

It’s like a really cheesy patient for me. Um, it was so funny, but, uh, like I think there are a lot of good things that are happening with putting that control in performer’s hands. But like, I do think so much of that is been glossed over of how much more we are expected to work.

Now that’s the second question. So, so a lot of what, you know, what this has done, right? A lot of people have said, you know what, this legitimizes adult in a way that has never been legitimized before. Right. And the respect that, that, that people who had jobs who’d never thought twice about this. I was like, well, shit, why am I posting on Instagram for nothing? When you can put it behind a paywall to pay wall, I can’t make any money at my job. I might as well do it. And it sort of opened up the field to people who never would a million years would’ve thought of doing this because even though it was virtually industry, no different than you know, some of the Instagram posts or the stuff they were posting there, all of a sudden it legitimizes it.

Even the stuff that I post on only fans is similar to the stuff I post on Instagram and Twitter. Like you can see a little more, but a lot of it’s just like a deeper look at my life. Um, like for a long time, I’ve put standup on my only fans. Um, I started doing that last year just because that, like people knew I was doing it. My fans were really supportive and that’s what they wanted to see. And I would tell people like a year ago that I was using only fans for not porn. That I was using it to like sell my standup and like other performers were like, what the fuck? Like you can just do that!? And I was like, dude, that’s how you make the money, cause it’s not, I mean, you’re building a cult of personality; people want to get close to you. If they just want to see titties, like those are for free on the internet. Um, but you definitely can get like, there’s definitely nudes, but even on like my wall of content, like on my only fans, like I actually don’t post news on the wall.
Like you can buy them in the DM. Um, But yeah, I it’s, it’s, it’s kind of like a more flexible version of Patreon on some level. Um, it’s a really good point. Yeah. Especially if you’re just selling like your personality, your influencerness.

So where are influencer-ness? There’s a word I’m going to start using that, I’m gonna start. I’m gonna start calling myself. Yes. Hire my influences influencerness for this. I like that, yeah. My influence is the correct word. So, where are you? So where do you see this going? I mean, we, we are, you know, Oh, hang on. Depending on who you believe we’re six months, a year, five years, ever a way from a, from a vaccine from getting, we’re never going to get back to what considered normal, you know, Texas, um, opened up the first drive through strip club because fucking Texas, of course they did, right!? You know, cause that’s the most important thing. But um, you know, I, I don’t, I don’t, I was, I was thinking someone who spent all this time speaking at conferences. Right. And then yeah. I have no idea when that’s gonna come back. Yeah. More importantly, when are people going to be.. like even if, even if there’s a vaccine tomorrow, when are people gonna be comfortable?

I know that. I know, at least for like standup. I mean, people are like dying for it. I mean, literally people are literally going to do, um, which is dumb, but like, I know that like for a lot of those people, yeah. I mean, that is just their end all be all, everything that they do. And so, like, I know just being at the Comedy Store the last few weeks and seeing everyone there and just how much this is, like impacted everybody. But for me, like, I mean, My Comedy career is on hold, like it just is that’s it’s unavoidable right now. Um, my Porn career is basically over, uh, which wasn’t the plan. I had planned to, you know, going into this year, I always got into adult, like I got into adult on the back end and producing and I had always planned to write about it. Like the idea was to go have these adventures and have this crazy life and be able to like, right. Yeah. Like I very foolishly at like 23, I’m like, I’m going to sell a memoir. I should write a memoir fucking goddamn, like another fucking white blonde girl writing a memoir that we don’t need it.
No one had the word broken in the title. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, we don’t. No one with an Instagram account needs to write any more memoirs. I think we were past that Caroline Hallway, if you’re listening, we don’t need.. nicely put. Yeah. Uh, but you know, so I had planned to like, like this going, I had just turned 26 and I was like, okay, you know, I’m going to peter down this part of the career anyways. Um, and then this just sped it up. Cause like, again, I’m 26. So by the time porn restarts to like, where. Shooting is profitable for someone like me, again, like I’ll be 27, 28. Like, I don’t want to be a MILF. This was never my end all. So it kind of just sped up. All right. Like, I’m going to have to go on this side of the coin. I actually just got a job, uh, producing again behind the camera. So I’m going to go back to doing some of that. Uh, I’m working on a pilot, uh, pitch for pilot right now with some of my friends so that’s really exciting. Um, so yeah, I just thought, you know, it’s that LA hustle. I have five jobs and I’m gonna stick it out here like as long as I can trying to chase the dream and hope that it comes back in some way.

What are you, I’m going to ask this. Are you putting, are you using any, uh, so you’re doing any standup or you like, so you said you were to show a last night.


Yeah, I do the Ding-Dong Show with Don Barris on Monday nights. Um, so I still do like, those kinds of Zoom shows. I’m starting a podcast, which my podcast drops on Friday, so that’s really exciting. Um, thank you. Yeah. Um, so yeah, I mean it’s Comedy is one of those great things that I, at least, I think the way I approach it is that it’s so flexible where th.. this pandemic yet songs I love standup. Standup is my lane, but through this, like I had to learn how to do sketch and I put together sketches and I learned how to, I fucking learned iMovie, like I learned how to edit, like those are good skills. So have it’s good to be able to do improv and sketch and stand up and like to be well versed in that cause whether or not that’s, I don’t want to be a sketch comedian, but it makes writing like for, to write those sketches and see them through start to finish like, that’s just great training. Anything you do in that realm is going to make you better. If you put the work in. So right now it’s just the time where we have to put it. It’s like finals. Like you have to study. It’s shitty. Yeah. All you can do. You can’t do practical. You gotta, you gotta go learn the theory. Right?

Here’s a question I’ve been curious about because.. I used to just stand up back in high school. I went to the High School for Performing arts in New York city and I was a drama kid and the theater geek and a vocal geek, I always crossed the line though. I would always I’d always make the jokes. I was like, Oh dude, no, not yet, or too soon or whatever. Um, Probably why I got into comedy, but, um, are you hearing covert jokes yet?

Yeah, for sure. Pandemic jokes. Quarantine jokes. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Like that’s comics tend to write about what they’re experiencing, honestly, it’s to a level where some people are like, you can stop doing those. We’re all fucking emotional, functional alcoholics, I get it. We’re all really lonely and horny and we hate everybody that’s in a relationship and everybody’s in a relationship, hates their partner. Like we get it. This is our reality. Um, so I mean, I’ve been lucky cause I’m like I live alone, so I don’t, I’m not trying to kill my roommates or my parents or my partner.
So that’s good. Um, it’s just me and my dog.

I have a seven year old daughter who, um, what was the, uh, what was the joke that, that her, uh, her teachers all lied to me. She’s actually, in fact, not a pleasure to have in class, but, um, you know, it’s, it’s still fun. And I mean, it it’s, it is tough though. I mean, you know, in New York city, you live here because of what’s outside, you live here, you know, and, and there’s nothing outside, right? I mean, thank God it’s summer now, but if we’re still doing the shit in six months, You’re going to blow brains out. I mean, there’s literally nothing to do. There’s no, there’s nowhere to go inside. We’d be stuck here. It’s horrible.

At least. Yeah. At least in LA, like there’s a lot of hiking and the beach, like I’ve been doing a lot of hiking. Um, fucking kill me, man. Yeah. Oh no.

I was at Malibu a month ago and that I was literally, that’s all I did for three straight days, which is hike. And I’m like, I’m looking at people and I’m like, I want to sh I see people walk on the trail and they’re not looking at me. So you don’t realize how lucky you are!!?

All my friends with like yards and pools too. Like, I don’t live in the Valley anymore. I lived in the Valley when I first came to LA and then I moved down to Hollywood, uh, last year, um, because I was performing all the time and it didn’t make any sense to like still. Yeah. Like, and I know, like even when I was working full clip and like adult, like I was doing a really busy month was maybe like eight to 10 movies. So I kind of reasoned it as like, okay, I have to be at the Store every fucking night if I want to do comedy, but like I only have to be in the Valley eight times a month. I’m not going to, but now I look at that and all my friends that have like swimming pools and yards, they’re like, Oh, quarantine, quarantine, all… And I’m like in my 700 square foot apartment, like in the middle of a war zone, Like fucking, like, there’s been like helicopters over my building, people marching in the streets and it was like flashback. Like my dog was losing her shit. I like, yeah. I had to get my dog on Xanax. Like it was just fucking like, I like, Oh man, it’s gotten much quieter, but like June was just fucking brutal here.
Oh my God.

My cat years ago when there were a lot of protests in like a four Oh five or ’04 four during the, uh, The Bush era there were protests in New York when it’s at my apartment and I called it kitty Barbetol I was giving her like, I was just feeding her kitty barbers every day. But, um, you know, it’s, it’s, you’re right about, about people having these apartments.
First of all, if I see one more, God damn photo of someone in their second home. Oh, my God. I, my, my daughter has a friend, uh, at her school whose mom is the daughter of a very, very, very famous singer and I’m like, like worldwide famous singer, And, um, so she, and about a month ago, she’s like, Hey, just want to check in with you; so-and-so misses your daughter and we miss you guys, how are you holding up? Like, well, we’re holding up the best we can, and what we can do on the playground.. Oh, you’re.. you’re you’re holing up in the city? Yes, we don’t have three fucking homes. You know and like this.. it’s ridiculous.

So many of my, yeah, so many of my friends in New York bailed out really early, too.
I’m going to leave. I’m not going to leave. I’m born and raised here. I’m not going to leave, but it’s sucks. I won’t lie.

Cause like my, even my parents were asking, my mom was like, you know, if he gets really bad, you can, you can come see us in CSOC . Why would I do that? You got like, my parents are interstate, like they’re 60, they’re retired. I was like, that’s a horrible plan. I was like, you guys live in a retirement house. I have no room there. Like I was like, I would fucking, I cannot imagine. Imagine if I was thinking high school or in college and like was quarantined with my family. Oh my God. that would.. Oh my God.

I know a lot of, it’s funny. I have, I have friends who have their kids home and they’re just like, ah, yeah, that’s good.. and then they just sort of trail off they never actually finish the sentence.

Like, I mean, we were at each other’s throats when I lived there and we weren’t all locked in the house together. So I can only imagine now, like, I mean, they seem to be thriving.
They’ve discovered takeout, cocktails. Uh, which my dad did not previously know existed. So like he sends me pictures and they have this, like, they live in Colorado, they have this gorgeous view and it’s big, like, you know, back patio and shit and like, he sends me pictures of himself, like drinking, like a Negroni, like on his, with his golf cart I’m like, fuck you, man. Like, dude, like I’m out here trying to make it like.

What has your, has your, what percentage has your alcohol consumption increased over the past four months? Uh, you know, it’s, it’s up there. I drink a lot anyway. I’m a comic. I go out every, you know, I go out every night, it’s a two drink minimum. Twist my fucking arm. Um, but, uh, you know, it’s, I try to keep it under a bottle of wine a day. Like I’m like, I don’t finish the bottle. And I think that’s okay. Um, but I know a lot of my friends are just like, it hits like 4:30 in the afternoon. You’re like, what am I? There’s nothing else to do. Yeah, man, what else are we going to do?

Yeah, it’s funny. I have a, um, so there’s a bunch of friends. I went to high school with it and some of them are still in that high school mentality and they’re still the same druggies that they were in high school. And, um, apparently, uh, from, from what they tell me the, um, Uh, delivery of drugs has, uh, the times that actually gotten less, what used to be an hour. Is that like 30 minutes early? Because there’s a traffic!


I mean, like for sure, it’s great to be living in the age of like delivery marijuana where they just bring it to your house. Like, Oh man, I used to have to go sit on somebody who’s like tapestry covered Fucking petroli scented couch for those. Yeah, like Mike from Miami, I have to sit there. That’s awesome. Probably playing his fuckin banjo. I lived, when I was in college, I had a weed dealer that lived in my building and his name was Mike. He was Cuban. He was from Miami and he played the banjo continuance.

Mike, if you’re listening, you know, you got to up your game. Tell us about your podcast. Oh, my podcast is called The Kennedy Assassination.
I interview men from the internet about what they don’t like about me. Um, that’s awesome. It’s really fun. I have to like troll through I, at first I pitched this idea around it for a while, like in the like podcasts sphere and everyone told me not to do it. Um, they’re like, it won’t work. No one’s gonna want to come on that. You’re not going to get guests and it’s going to be so upsetting to you emotionally. And, uh, It’s like celebrities, reading bad tweets to themselves? Yeah. I mean, it’s like, I’m very interested in criticism in general, and I think like people in Hollywood have this just allergic reaction to it. Um, where they just don’t, they do not want to hear it.
And I personally, like, I always tell people, like, you can say whatever you want to meet, it will not be meaner than the 10 things I said to myself before breakfast. I love it. Like, it just won’t be. And so like, and I think a lot of these, like, and I would get, especially when I started doing like bigger shows, like I would look through the YouTube, I read all the comments cause I’m fucking vain. Oh, I love it. No, I love it. I would get the weirdest shit, like just the most out there stuff. And I started getting really interested in these people and like the psychology behind that and like what. You know, what is it? And so I asked like the internet, I was like, if you don’t like me, will you come on this and a lot of men wanted to come on this. Oh yeah. So I have four episodes right now. We’re doing another three this week. And then it comes out on Friday. Um, it’s the Kennedy assassination. You’ll be able to find out anchor.fm/the Kennedy assassination or anywhere you listen to podcasts, you can also find it- It’ll be all over my Twitter, which is @TheOGKennedy

If you have a great Twitter follow up, follow her Twitter. I’m a big fan of it. One question from my friend, Richard at also is that in LA: “I’d like to know which industry was harder to perform, Adult or for Comedy?”

Comedy is harder. It, Comedy is one of the most difficult things you can do, like it’s, it’s so difficult. Um, but I think like the mentality is similar in a lot of ways. It’s also just like, it’s the same as any kind of entertainment it’s who, you know, it’s when you hit, like, if you are the right thing for that moment, like that’s when you take off. And like, for me in porn, like I’ve always been I, and I very honestly say this- I was always a very mediocre performer. I was a middle tier performer. I made a living. I mean like it’s, so there are less, probably less than 200 full time American porn performer, Um, the actually make a living doing that in studio porn in 2020, like what an anachronistic job, fucking studio pornography in 2020, what the fuck? Like, so I, you know, I’ve been really grateful for like the career I had in that, even if it wasn’t and I, you know, I wasn’t aiming to be this huge star in it, but it was a good experience. They’re both very, they’re both difficult. Uh, they both take a certain kind of mindset, certain kind of person. It’s not for everybody. I had good experiences in both.

Cool. All right. I want to get you back in a couple of a couple of weeks after your podcast drops and we’ll see, we’ll see how that’s been going, but thank you so much for taking the time! Yeah. Stay sane. Don’t don’t go too crazy over there.

Thank you. I will try. And we’ll have you back! All right. Thanks for having me guys.

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